The former president and once-again-future president, who are historically something less than besties, chatted it up before the service began. (Michelle Obama was not in attendance.)

The two men were seated next to each other at the National Cathedral in Washington, D.C., talking before Carter’s funeral officially started. Trump leaned in to say something to Obama, who listened before laughing and smiling as Trump continued to speak into Obama’s ear.

Former first lady Michelle Obama didn't attend the state funeral for former President Jimmy Carter. Except for Michelle Obama, all of the living former presidents and their spouses were at the funeral Thursday.